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Detroit Locker vs. Full Spool

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Post by jimi667 » Sat Mar 02, 2002 2:49 pm

what does everyone think
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Post by INPHOBIC » Mon Aug 12, 2002 2:46 pm

I run a detroit in the front and a full spool in the rear. So there. ;)

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Post by chuck » Tue Aug 27, 2002 10:03 am

I like the detroit for the rear because the OX is not available for the 9" yet.
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Post by Joseph » Fri Sep 13, 2002 8:00 am

If the rig will see street driving then Locker, if not spool. IMHO

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Post by av8rds » Wed Jan 01, 2003 9:45 pm

:lol:

Full spool on my summertime daily driver. The only time i notice it is when i'm aired down driving to the trail.
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Post by av8rds » Wed Jan 01, 2003 9:52 pm

:lol:

Full spool on my summertime daily driver. The only time i notice it is when i'm aired down driving to the trail.
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Post by Sandman » Sat Jan 11, 2003 10:12 am

I run detroits front and rear. like the results so far.

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Post by Sr.Irie » Mon Mar 10, 2003 8:52 pm

I have been runing a full spool in the rear and a detroit in the front for a long time little more tire wear but who really cares. It gives you cool swamper howl in parking lots to.

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Post by Diceman » Wed Apr 09, 2003 11:35 am

Mine is a street truck....some O/R use but I get ansy whenever the stuff gets knarly(READ: way too much money invested in the dang thing).

Have lockers in a buddies 77 and on the road they have a mind of their own...O/R...no contest...but at one time or the other your gonna have to get on the street....

Too each his own...FYI if mine spent more time in the muck I would have voted for the lockers....

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Post by TonyNokes » Thu May 22, 2003 11:28 am

I must throw my $.02 in here. Safety should always be the primary concern and to that end you should pick the device based on the vehicles actual use not it's intended use. In my opinion a spool is an off-road only device. Short Wheel base vehicles with high center of gravity and flexible suspensions need all the help they can get staying up right. I have had open differentials, limited slips, Detroit lockers, and ARB's in my Bronco at different times. I removed the Detroit after nearly rolling it on my way up the mountian to go skiing, the locked differential in conjuction with a small patch of ice was all it took to put me side ways and into the snow bank. I now run a ARB which gives me the choice base on condtions.

Think about it; is saving a few bucks or having the most extreme rig in the club, worth your life or someone else's?


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Post by mad4mud » Mon Jun 30, 2003 6:30 pm

Cheaper. more predictable. CHEAPER. Definitely the spool
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Post by maverickconner » Thu Oct 16, 2003 6:14 am

If your running 35's or bigger, why not run a spool, the tire give is a little more predictable than that Detroit. Save your money and put the Detroit in the front.....

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Post by MnvlMat » Tue Oct 28, 2003 8:44 pm

Spool.
Less moving parts. :lol:

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Post by cams 76 » Mon Nov 10, 2003 6:20 pm

what does a locker do different from a spool

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Post by dittohead » Fri Nov 28, 2003 8:42 pm

A spool is WAY more predictable on road then a detroit. I have run both (spool in my DD for over a year). The detroit sucks on the road. You are cruising around a sweeping corner at 80km/hr then-bang! the locker unlocks, pitches the truck into the other lane! This happens to every short wheelbase truck i have driven w/ a detroit (2). My spool was rock solid in every situation and was hardly noticeable unless in a tight parking lot. Another bonus is that a spool doesnt explode when you break an axle. When/if i break my 31 spline detroit, im going back to full chromoly spool. Cheaper and tougher! :D
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Post by iron balls » Tue Dec 02, 2003 5:19 pm

I've heard some bad things about detroits, and the predictabilty of a spool is - well - more predictable. I'm on board with Mr. Nokes up there. Yeah, it's a couple hundred dollars more than a detroit, but the ARB gives you the best of both worlds. When my piggy bank's full, I'm getting the ARB. Even if I have to fill it twice.

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Post by md_lucky_13 » Thu Feb 19, 2004 9:05 pm

I'm curious what years people are running for their detroits?

From what I understand, they went to a new design last year.. Since mine is one of these "new designs," I wonder if it has different manners then the older style. I can't even notice the locker disengage... The only time I notice is is when I touch the gas.. Then BLIP, it can bark the tires in a turn. Otherwise, its just like driving open diffs... When I go around a corner, I let off the gas, havn't even noticed it there. It has my vote all the way...

I agree that an OX or ARB would be much better, but if I wanted to step up to something like that, I would have to go all out on strength.. I'm running the detroit 28 spline till it breaks.. then I might step up to an ARB.. but it will cost me over a grand for the setup I would want.
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Post by jasonh » Fri Feb 20, 2004 11:24 am

Ahead of reading this poll, I had been thinking I'd put in lockers front and rear. BUT after reading the posts, and hearing how a Detroit can unpredictably disengage, I'm beginning to lean toward a spool in the rear. What the heck, why not put in spools front and rear? Yes, that's my vote.
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great poll !

Post by schaan » Fri Feb 20, 2004 11:30 am

i decided to go with the full spool since im putting in new 4.56 gears and 31 spline axle cant wait to tell all how well it works
i went spool for cost and road handling predictibility
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Post by familybeast » Sun Mar 14, 2004 11:57 am

I have a Detroit in my 72 and a full 35 spline spool in my 79 and I will get rid of that Detroit ASAP. The tire wear sucks with the spool but the drivabliity is so much better. I am wondering of those who like the Detriot are you also running automatics? Both of mine are sticks. I agree that the ARB would give the best of both worlds but there are a lot more parts and expense involved. FB
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Post by SaddleUp » Tue Apr 06, 2004 1:53 am

I'm running a Detroit in the rear of my Bronco and I am quite happy with it. (Yes, I also have an automatic) If I get on it pulling out of a parking lot then I can hear the tires bark a little and I can tell it is there on loose gravel where one tire definately breaks loose. Otherwise I seldom notice any difference between it and an open carrier. As far as safety goes it is like anything else. Keep the road conditions and equipment in mind. Don't try to take your lifted Bronco with 33" or larger sleds on it on an icy road at high speeds even if you have open carriers. With a Detroit Locker you can predict that there is the potential it will break loose on curves. With a spool it is more or less a certainty that it will. In both cases you should slow down when the road conditions warrant doing so because neither one does very well on ice. For those that need to drive on icy roads several weeks or months of the year then either run open carriers or a STD (Selectable Traction Device) AND run tires that get better traction on ice. (I.E. Studded tires or Chains) For those of us who will only see a few weeks or less of icy roads then we just need to keep the road conditions and equipment in mind. (Usually this amounts to just slowing down and taking it easy but might also mean running chains on the front tires or maybe even all four tires) I personally plan to cut down a set of truck chains to fit my front tires for the few days of the year when I might need them.

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Post by 76BroncoFromHell » Fri Jul 30, 2004 1:52 pm

I always hear how bad Detroits are on a street and I love it. For you guys who say they are completely unbarable, how do you drive? I mean are you still 16 and flooring it everywhere?

My set of 35's still have 75% tread with 20,000 miles on them with a rear Detroit. If you are competant in the least you can learn to keep a CONSTANT speed in the turns and the Detroit is entirely benine. My Detroit does not spontaniously disengage, it does not bang and clunk and it does not wear the tires any differently than my track-lock posi did. Offroad the Detroit works awesome and it makes you feel like you can climb anything in the world. Truly a good setup.

I've driven trucks with spools in the rear too and I can't understand how they are more "predictable". If by predictable you mean by wearing tires twice as fast or putting way more stress on the axle shafts then I guess it is more predictable. Maybe you mean predictably bogging and shuddering around a turn? A spool is for off-road use only, that's the bottom line.

If you intend to drive this thing on street more 10% of its life I would invest in a Detroit SoftLocker (the same one that's in mine) from Summit Racing. It's only $410 there!
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Post by nvrstuk » Sun Sep 12, 2004 9:18 pm

Dittohead is right on.

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Post by Captain Air Time » Sun Nov 07, 2004 6:22 pm

Spools are great everywhere except dry parking lots. they suck there. Detroits are too fragile for me, at least the last 3 were. As for predictable, the spool is pretty much invisible, where the detroit does ratchet and catch once in a while. Tire wear difference was not noticeable to me in either vehicle (ran both, in both) but then I'm not familiar with the concept of 'coast', except as it applies to the ocean :D
If you drive like you are on Valium, the detroit is pretty smooth. Otherwise, the spool is smoother. For someone who suggested a spool for the front, well, I geuss thats preference, but try it, you probably won't like it. Especially after the power steering hose rips off. Don't ask how I know 8O

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Post by BUCKETOBOLTS » Thu Nov 25, 2004 9:21 am

I'm new to this site, but not to gears and diffs. I know people who run run a spool on the street and guys that have detroits. A detroit in a TJ makes for a hair raising ride sometimes. Calmed down a bit with the spool, but really binds up when turning tight. Tough on axles and clutches in a parking lot situation. I have an EZ-Locker in the front of my 72 and the stock Trak-Lok in the rear. I've not had any traction trouble off road, but know the stock diff can grenade at any time. I have another housing I'm building up with tapered bearings and 35 splined axles. Axles this size are strong enough to handle a spool.
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Post by Homer J » Fri Dec 31, 2004 6:06 am

I like my Detroit Locker. After running it for a few years, I know when it will engage or disengage and adjust my driving to the road surface. I have had 1 incident in 9 years due to the locker. But it was because I was going WAAAYY too fast for the road conditions.

I think a lot of guys run spools because of the cool factor or because some guy runs one in his pro rockcrawler. Taking no consideration of what the actual use will be. I remember 5-10 years ago, you could count on one hand the amount of people running full spools. Now, it just seems like the in thing too do.
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Post by DBS311 » Sat Feb 26, 2005 1:18 pm

I agree with FromHell. If you are retarded and getting off the gas or punching it in the middle of a corner, yeah, the detroit would be unpleasant. But I'm not retarded and I don't drive like that so my detroit has never given me any problems going through the corners. For the past 3 years it has been pretty much invisible on the street. Then again, my longer wheelbase could make a difference. Just don't drive stupid and you will have zero problems.
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Post by Tom Dummer » Sun Feb 27, 2005 11:02 am

I'm retarded and I dont even own a Detroit !

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Post by relm 4x4 » Tue Aug 02, 2005 11:31 pm

Maybe it's the older detroit's that act up a bit, or once they get a few miles on them. I know I could sure feel mine locking and unlocking in a corner sometimes. You wil really notice this with a standard, especially when you push in the clutch and shift gears, you kinda feel the rear end do a little wiggle. I've run my spool for 2 or 3 years now and I'd never go back, my detroit wore tires just as bad as my spool. If I had the extra cash and didn't have other pieces to buy I would get an electrac or ox-locker.

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Post by Izzy3 » Fri Nov 18, 2005 6:47 am

Got a Detroit in the rear and am adding one for the front. Haven't experienced any issues with unexpected unlocking.
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Post by racebronco » Fri Apr 07, 2006 9:41 am

I have had a detroit locker in my rear axle for about 9 years now.. it works great but they can be unpredictable when U first start to drive with one.. once you have had it for a while, U know what it's gonna do and when!! I know that when I shift it will unlock when I push in on the cluth because all torque has been removed from the unit, and it may engage again when letting the clutch back out depending on how hard I'm on the gas.. also around corners, shifting can get U into trouble, an auto shoudln't have that problem because of constant torque output, but once it locks it won't unlock unless I rapidly let off the gas, then it will shift the rear end a bit.. all in all it's not bad once your use to it..

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Post by bronco69 » Tue Aug 08, 2006 9:15 pm

SPOOL all the way, it's always the same-all the time, and cheap!

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Post by rjlougee » Sun Nov 05, 2006 7:22 am

My vote is for a spool all the way, when the choice is spool or Detroit. I would advise you spend the extra $$ and go with a selectable locker, whether a DD or mostly off-road rig. In either case the benefits are considerable.

The predicability factor is still a cancern, even when driving in total control. Depending where you live, you just never know when you're going to come around a corner and there's a moose standing in the middle of the road. Get off the gas and that Detroit will throw you off the line.

Another thing I don't like about Detroits is the way they will engage/disengage off-road. When wheeling on large, loose rocks (I'm thinking Hammers here) it's constantly engaging and disengaging. Make a climb up something, RPMs are down near the top and it disengages, give it a bit more throttle and it re-engages and slides you 3 feet sideways, off the perfect line you were just on. Can you learn to never get off the gas??? Maybe, but why should you have to?

Just my $.02, I'll never run a detroit again.
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Post by PHARMIE » Wed Dec 27, 2006 7:46 pm

i vote detroit! Cause to be honest its all i have ever used..i spose like anything else it has its ups n downs..and you know what they say about opinions.....Steven
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Post by ricks73eb » Wed May 30, 2007 8:43 am

toss two spools in it!! so what if you cant turn worth a s@#t you can drive over anything!!!
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Post by Chips67 » Wed Jan 23, 2008 11:29 am

I have had a spool in the rear of my bronco for 3 years, i drive it daily in the summer and also make the 2.5 hour drive on the highway to the rubicon trail here in california about 8-10 times a summer, highway and city driving are fine, no complaints, you do get quite a bit of tire spin in parking lots as well as some leaning at slow parking lot speed during turns, personally i would not pay the extra money for the detroit, i think the differance is minimal, and the spool has no moving parts to break.My friend has a detroit in his land cruiser and makes just as much noise as i do in the parking lots.

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Post by efibroncoman » Wed Jan 23, 2008 9:40 pm

Everyone I have known that had a Detroit always has to put up with constant slippage and clicking. I had a lock right in a Ford 8" in my BroncoII, and I loved it, yeah it would jerk you a bit if you stepped on it. But if you prepare yourself for it, it wasn't a problem. I only heard it pop really loud twice and both times I was making a u-turn on the street. I personally think a spool would be more abusive on tires. I plan on using a lock right in my '75 with 31 spline side gears and axles. You can find these for often less than $300, not much more than a spool.
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Post by dvnfly » Sun Feb 24, 2008 9:50 am

I'm new to my 69 Bronco, which my wife got me for christmas when I was in Afghanistan, what a great gift. I have had newer broncos before and I put an Aubrun Gears Limited Slip in and it was very mild tempered on the road and reliable off road. My new toy has Detroits front and rear a manual trans and about 400 ponys under the hood. I have had two loud pops that you could feel were coming from the back axle. My question is this the detroit giving way, both happened right out of turns or do I have serious axle issues to worry about. I only have put about 150 miles on the bronco so far, any inputs??

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Post by Tom Dummer » Sun Feb 24, 2008 10:06 am

Thats the classic sound of the Detroit.
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Post by tomvzw » Thu Apr 17, 2008 7:50 pm

My 69 came with a Detroit in my D44 front and a Spool in the 9"rear. It works great. After spending close to 20k in the last 6 months buying the truck and upgrading things I am spent for now. In the future going to swap both out for some HD 9's with 4:56 gears, 35 spline axles and ARB's. Just having trouble justifying another 10k right now when the truck runs awesome.

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