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Post by Tom Dummer » Tue Jul 25, 2006 7:46 pm

I meant MY run will have a high probability of winching, if I mapped a run for someone else would not, but there would be some great viewpoints along the way.
Right now we got in (another) shitpot of trouble at work and this may affect my attendance on Friday. I'll still call in sick that day, but I may not have a place to work when I get back. Priorities.
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Post by Formerjughead » Tue Jul 25, 2006 9:02 pm

Tom Dummer wrote:I meant MY run will have a high probability of winching, if I mapped a run for someone else would not, but there would be some great viewpoints along the way.
Right now we got in (another) shitpot of trouble at work and this may affect my attendance on Friday. I'll still call in sick that day, but I may not have a place to work when I get back. Priorities.
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Post by SaddleUp » Tue Jul 25, 2006 10:24 pm

Tom Dummer wrote:I meant MY run will have a high probability of winching, if I mapped a run for someone else would not, but there would be some great viewpoints along the way.
Right now we got in (another) shitpot of trouble at work and this may affect my attendance on Friday. I'll still call in sick that day, but I may not have a place to work when I get back. Priorities.
Keep me posted. Don't get fired for the run. It's not that important. Thom had someone in mind that may be able to help as well so I can call him. Right now we can handle it with only 2 leaders but I expect the number to double by then.
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Post by Tom Dummer » Sun Jul 30, 2006 7:39 pm

Well, Yesterday Dave Vandervelde, Brandon & Sara, and I went out to see what is/ was available for the SOB trail run. I am completely depressed. The good sections of the trails are closed.
We put in over 65 miles of road time not counting the drive up there and back. I am now going to bitch the hell out of my OHV recreation manager for doing this to us. We went from Diamond Mill to Triangulation to Jordan Creek and around to Ben Smith Road and hit maybe a mile and a half of decent trails. Mostly stuff that tried to shred the paint from our rigs and the skin from our faces.

If I dont get some good answers from the ODF guys, I aint wasting anyones time by trying to do a "trail run" on Friday. Rick & his Brother can take a group up to the crushers, but I dont want to wait in that line, and nothing else is more than a mild, narrow gravel road.
Rogers Road is closed due to a logging operation, Archers trail at Portland mills road HAD a good hill climb, closed. The next 2 sectons of Archers are flattened and graveled, the rock climb and waterfall are closed. by the time we got this far, we just headed out.

But on a better note, we did find a few unmarked trails covered with dead branches that put nasty scrapes down the sides of our rigs and faces. The trip to Triangulation peak could be a spectacular SOB trail run if for nothing but the incredible views and to pay your respect to "Billy Bobs" memorial boot. And I took Brandon in my super-secret super-steep trail where we both did world class wheel stands and I about went up and over backwards, while Brandon chose the more delicate right wheel lift, followed by a left wheel lift that tried to roll him over as well. Sara promptly ejected herself from the passenger seat ,,obviously for the photo-op.

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Post by Mherriford » Sun Jul 30, 2006 8:56 pm

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Post by SaddleUp » Sun Jul 30, 2006 9:27 pm

Tom Dummer wrote:Well, Yesterday Dave Vandervelde, Brandon & Sara, and I went out to see what is/ was available for the SOB trail run. I am completely depressed. The good sections of the trails are closed.
Do you know the status on the following trails:
Hogsback
SaddleUp
Ceder Tree
Rocky Uphill
University Firepower
Firebreak Five
Ample & Alluring
Brown's Powerline
Can Opener
Seven Up
Hood Raiser
Powerline

Several of these trails are of the moderate skill level with a number that are of the more difficult level. If even half of them are open then we can come up with a decent run for everyone that will not be "wasting" anyones time.

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Post by Tom Dummer » Mon Jul 31, 2006 7:23 am

I did some in-depth mapping last night (instead of some important stuff I have for work sitting here) and I'm going to do one last recon mission.
Heres what I know about the rest of the trails:

Hogsback; still closed, theres a small chance that it will get open by then, but doubts are high.

Saddleup; One way trail, DOWNHILL :redmad: I'm not certain its posted as such yet.

Cedar Tree; I've never hit the new Cedar Tree since it closed so soon after it was opened, it 'could' be open, but chances are its all nice and pretty.

Rocky Uphill; OPEN. 76" max width. There was tracks from some unik trying to make a new trail around their filter at the bottom.

University Firepower; Usually closed for the winter, Since the rock trail just West of the Waterfall ws still CLOSED for the winter, I wouldn't hold your breath on UFP.

Firebreak Five; THE rock area that everyone and their dog stops for the photo-op is getting too wide for the ODF's taste and there was talk about closing that section for discussion on what to do about it. I dont know what the status of the top section is.

Ample and Alluring; Stupid name for a trail. Never was any of either. ;) but the unmarked trail that continues at the top then drops down to the right was bitchin to run. I hope its still open.

Browns Powerline; Closed, too much sediment in what was originally a sediment pond :redmad:

Can Opener; Was closed ---MIGHT be open, but doubts are high.

Seven up; OPEN, the medium climb from the hard turn on Seven Cedars straight up the hill is getting very fun and tricky ( this means try it now before its closed).

Hood Raiser; Was fun before a Forest Service Employee accidentally ran a grader down it a couple of years ago thinking it was one they needed to use. It might be returning to a usable trail by now.

Powerline;THIS SHOULD BE OPEN. The reroute through the woods just might be becoming more than a winding drive by now, too.

Rogers Road; closed to logging operation

Firefox; Better be open, just got repaired last year. Its just 12 MILES from any other trail

Truck Dent; Open. Its no more than a dusty hill climb about 15 miles from any other LEGAL :mrgreen: trail. This should keep it open for years to come.

Bates Road; Closed to logging. Probably will not be reopened until its pussified.

Back to Back; never tried it. They count it as a 4x4 trail that dead ends at the top of the hill. I guess I need to hit it some day.

Airplane Hill; I walked this mountain with another guy and found a usable reroute for the ODF to study. He can ride them to get it authorized, I just hope it goes somewhere before I die of old age.

You might go in at the Prison Camp and take South Fork road to Hood Raiser, then up the medium of 7UP, spin back and hit the bitchnasty side of 7UP. Continue on to the crushers, down FB5 and over to Cedar Tree, slide over to University Firepower and then to Powerline. The Prison Camp end of Powerline has the Little Rubicon on it and you'd be back on South Fork Rd. for the drive back.

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Post by SaddleUp » Mon Jul 31, 2006 9:04 am

Do you know why they're making Saddle Up one way downhill? I can't think of a good reason for doing so. Oh well. Thanks for the trail info. that will give me a good starting point when I do the prerun. Is the top of hogsback still open? (I assume it is) I have a good idea of what trails Dan knows so I'll probably work out a map with him on the prerun (I think he's still planning to go on it). I'll be going in at the prison camp anyway to Lyda Camp because there are going to be several trailers. Dan is planning to start out there as well.
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Post by Tom Dummer » Mon Jul 31, 2006 9:17 am

To keep from tearing up the trail I presume. The top short climb on Hogsback should still be open. The new Hogsback has no difficult spots. The hardest part is how twisty the trail is through the trees. And the depth of the gravel. 8+" in some places. Lyda would be a good start/ stop point.
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Post by Tom Dummer » Mon Jul 31, 2006 10:47 am

I just got a little hearsay from the group that adopted Firefox Trail. its also closed for a logging operation.
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Post by SaddleUp » Mon Jul 31, 2006 11:44 am

Tom Dummer wrote:I just got a little hearsay from the group that adopted Firefox Trail. its also closed for a logging operation.
That's so far away from the rest that it isn't practical anyway. Same with Truck Dent. (I doubt that side of the highway will be open anyway)
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Post by Tom Dummer » Mon Jul 31, 2006 12:12 pm

The North side of the hiway is open just as often as the South side. Always. Dont get N & S confused with the North side non-motorized areas. Look over the OHV map, do you really think they will close all those motorcycle trails? There were a lot more motorcycle guys camping North of the highway than there were on the South side.
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Post by SaddleUp » Mon Jul 31, 2006 12:46 pm

Tom Dummer wrote:The North side of the hiway is open just as often as the South side. Always. Dont get N & S confused with the North side non-motorized areas. Look over the OHV map, do you really think they will close all those motorcycle trails? There were a lot more motorcycle guys camping North of the highway than there were on the South side.
I don't think they would do so. I know they would because they did. Last year the entire North side of Highway 6 was closed to all off road use due to fire hazard thru fire season. Several of the campgrounds were also closed. The only area that stayed open were the designated trails in the area between Jordan Creek and Browns Camp on the south side of highway 6. I know this for certain because we tried to go up to truck dent last year and had to go back to the other side since it was all closed. Unless all of those closure signs and maps didn't amount to anything.
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Post by Tom Dummer » Sat Aug 05, 2006 8:54 pm

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Post by Mherriford » Wed Aug 09, 2006 3:32 pm

sweet .I cant wait!!! :D :D :D
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Post by Tom Dummer » Wed Aug 09, 2006 6:07 pm

Rick, can we somehow start the 2 trips at different intervals this year? Last year there were guys wanting a less dramatic run that ended up in line with your group at the last. I dont want out any later than 9:30. As the groups were ready last year, they seemed to stop again at the parking lot and ended up in a big wait again. My run will begin out by the registration booth and parade our butts straight out.

I plan to go up North Fork Trask River Rd and go from Gobblers Knob to Ginsberg Point, possibly do the hillclimb @ Ginsberg, then run back to the trail near Bobcat cutoff which takes us up to Hembre Ridge. then its up to those along for a choice, Head back to Trask Rd & the party, or go to (whats left of) Archers and run it as far as possible, take a detour to a couple of "other" trails, then hit Hwy 6 back to the party.
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Post by SaddleUp » Wed Aug 09, 2006 11:02 pm

Tom Dummer wrote:Rick, can we somehow start the 2 trips at different intervals this year? Last year there were guys wanting a less dramatic run that ended up in line with your group at the last. I dont want out any later than 9:30. As the groups were ready last year, they seemed to stop again at the parking lot and ended up in a big wait again. My run will begin out by the registration booth and parade our butts straight out.
We will meet at the registration area at 9:00 AM Friday. We can stagger them out from there with my group taking the tail. My group will stop in the parking lot briefly while I load mine.

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Post by Tom Dummer » Thu Aug 10, 2006 7:24 am

Moderate. There will be a play climb if a few want to try it, When we get back to Browns area, it will include Browns-type of trails.
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Post by Tom Dummer » Fri Aug 11, 2006 5:28 pm

Can Opener IS open, Hogsback IS open, University Firepower IS open SaddleUp IS still a two way, just stay the hell off the side trails that are being cut in.
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Post by SaddleUp » Fri Aug 11, 2006 9:19 pm

Tom Dummer wrote:Can Opener IS open, Hogsback IS open, University Firepower IS open SaddleUp IS still a two way, just stay the hell off the side trails that are being cut in.
Thanks. I had heard Hogsback was open but hadn't heard about Can Opener being open.
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Post by Tom Dummer » Thu Aug 17, 2006 6:38 pm

I provided a "situation" :mrgreen: at work and I volunteered to be there on Monday (normally I have it off), so I definitely have Friday off. :thumbup:

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Post by Formerjughead » Thu Aug 17, 2006 8:31 pm

Tom Dummer wrote:I provided a "situation" :mrgreen: at work and I volunteered to be there on Monday (normally I have it off), so I definitely have Friday off. :thumbup:
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Post by SaddleUp » Thu Aug 17, 2006 11:37 pm

Sounds good. With the current list it looks like it will be close to perfect for group numbers. We're set up for 4 leaders with 2 or 3 to run tail and about 6 people in each group. I have an awesome run planned out for my wild group I think as long as all of the trails check out next week.
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Post by SaddleUp » Fri Aug 18, 2006 1:09 am

Here is the running list so far. (I'll update it as people post)

For the Moderate stuff: :o
- RT
- Mherriford (Meeting at trailhead)
- 69Ford - Loren
- Eric Ford (via email)
- Andy Cail (via email meeting at trailhead)
- TJK74 - Trevor
- H4 (Robs Dad)

For the Wild stuff: :thumbup: :?
- Ryan S (via email)
- Scott (GoodTimes)
- Travis
- Huey
- Big Mike
- Brian (Verify group)
- Nate (wesnjusa)
- jhayes
- IronBenderII - Jack
- Rob (Crab) - (via phone)
- Ryan Knott - (via phone)
- Kris Hoffmeister (via email)
- Toy Jason (sponsored by Nate above)

Riding shotgun:
- Juggy (Will be riding with Tom)
- PDXBronco (Will either ride with Ryan or Dan)
- Zach (Will either ride with Ryan or Dan)
- Adam Harris (Will be riding with me)
- Blue71 (Flying in from TN, looking for a seat)

Note: I stopped by and spoke with Mike from ORVP (Off Road Video Productions) and he plans to get video again this year during the trail runs. Last year he played video from the trail run on the monster big screen (small theatre sized) he had up near the registration area Saturday evening. It also appears that Adam Harris the Editor for Bronco Driver will be riding along as well.
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Post by SaddleUp » Fri Aug 18, 2006 6:38 am

Does anyone have a spare seat for Blue71 to ride in during the trail ride? He's flying in Thursday from TN.

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Post by Tom Dummer » Mon Aug 21, 2006 6:42 pm

I asked about trail closures by the end of the week and got good news:

""They are still open. If we go to an Industrial Fire Precaution Level 3
then they will be closed until we drop back down to a level 2. So far I
have not heard any indication that we will be moving to a level 3.

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Post by SaddleUp » Mon Aug 21, 2006 10:47 pm

Tom Dummer wrote:I asked about trail closures by the end of the week and got good news:

""They are still open. If we go to an Industrial Fire Precaution Level 3
then they will be closed until we drop back down to a level 2. So far I
have not heard any indication that we will be moving to a level 3.

Randy""
Thanks for checking. I was going to call today but I've been pretty busy. I'll probably check in with them again Wednesday.
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Post by SaddleUp » Tue Aug 22, 2006 7:26 am

Just making a final check here before I leave. I'm headed out today and will be doing a prerun of some of the trails tomorrow. If you didn't make it on the list then be sure to check in with me ahead of time if you can to make sure we still have room. I don't see any problems at this point but it will help to know how many we have so we can split them up into groups. I'll be camped in the first parking area at Sand Lake. Look for either a BroncoCovers.com banner or for a Columbia River Bronco's banner and I'll be close.

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Post by Formerjughead » Tue Aug 22, 2006 2:56 pm

Thats looks like a good set up for IFR qualifications...................."Use the Force"
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Post by nvrstuk » Wed Aug 23, 2006 6:49 pm

Going for the fun stuff. I'll be there with the rest of Columbia River Broncos!

Dash is full of holes, but the wiring is complete except for gauges. If it rains, I'll have to stop and plug in my wiper switch... :-)


I like PigPen's idea about leaving on time!!! There will be enough waiting around on the trail. Besides, we don't want to get back at midnight if there are a couple of "delays". :(

Sounds like a fun ride. Be good to put some names with sig lines!


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